These are the first bluetooth headphones Ive bought after resisting for years. This negative is not reflected in the rating I gave these on Amazon; it may just be my skin having a strange sensitivity to whatever the fabric is made from, but I wanted to note it here anyway. Long story is Logitech does not offer driver support for this controller since Windows 8. Over a year ago, I also bought the older DW DCR006 BT speaker. I have gone through 2 pairs of brookstone cat ears before I bought these. Its heavy, and that, to me, equates to quality. Initially I was concerned because the upper was quite high and stiff - esp with forward flexion in the boot. The bottom row can hold containers taller, up to 6” high. The other pair I got for my Grand Cherokee (different mfgr) had that tighten from the top under the rubber piece. Husband wears size 10.