If you are choosing between these and the Buds +, go with the Buds! I think as "everyday carry" headphones, I cant imagine a better deal for the money. I was so impress that I even forgot to remove the plastic cover -_-5 stars. The screws to screw in to hold the bars are so small, it doesn’t even hold it. The battery and volume control are noticable if visible, but if theyre under your collar or shirt youll be fine. For everything it can do and the price, is well worth it! And dont worry if they feel a little tight at first, its part of the genius design of them. So I bought one and it does indeed work fine with my own Mac. Garment is not difficult to remove even after a good sweat, and you will sweat wearing this. He likes the product it fits well